《红楼梦》的机器翻译研究
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本帖旨在做《红楼梦》的机器翻译研究的进度跟新,《红楼梦》作为中国四大名著之最,虽然已经有霍克斯和杨宪益两个版本的翻译书籍,但是这两个版本的译文中使用了大量的文学文笔,并不能很直白的对《红楼梦》原著进行解读,而且《红楼梦》原著属于文言文形式的文本,不太利于机器翻译的研究,所以本帖的任务过程是先结合霍克斯和杨宪益两个版本的译文与原文进行修正和梳理,得到一个直观的译文,然后将文言文文本翻译成白话文,虽然已经有了苟守庆版本的《白话全本红楼梦》,但这个内容将《红楼梦》原著更改了太多,不适合这个任务。

《红楼梦》原文与译文网盘链接:https://pan.baidu.com/s/1whtwnCFB7S7x8dxhfg-IsQ

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#76loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02

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不想这日三月十五,葫芦庙中炸供,那和尚不小心,油锅火逸,便烧着窗纸。
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此方人家俱用竹篱木壁,也是劫数应当如此,于是接二连三牵五挂四,将一条街烧得如火焰山一般。
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彼时虽有军民来救,那火已成了势了,如何救得下?
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直烧了一夜方息,也不知烧了多少人家。
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只可怜甄家在隔壁,早成了一堆瓦砾场了。
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只有他夫妇并几个家人的性命不曾伤了。
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急的士隐惟跌足长叹而已。
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与妻子商议,且到田庄上去住。
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偏值近年水旱不收,贼盗蜂起,官兵剿捕,田庄上又难以安身。
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只得将田地都折变了。
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携了妻子与两个丫鬟投他岳丈家去。
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他岳丈名唤封肃,本贯大如州人氏,虽是务农,家中却还殷实。
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今见女婿这等狼狈而来,心中便有些不乐。
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幸而士隐还有折变田产的银子在身边,拿出来托他随便置买些房地,以为后日衣食之计。
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那封肃便半用半赚的,略与他些薄田破屋。
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士隐乃读书之人,不惯生理稼穑等事。
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勉强支持了一二年,越发穷了。
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封肃见面时,便说些现成话儿;且人前人后又怨他不会过,只一味好吃懒做。
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士隐知道了,心中未免悔恨,再兼上年惊唬,急忿怨痛。
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暮年之人,那禁得贫病交攻,竟渐渐的露出了那下世的光景来。

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#74loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02

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兄可即买舟西上,待雄飞高举,明冬再晤,岂非大快之事!
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雨村收了银衣,不过略谢一语,并不介意,仍是吃酒谈笑。
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那天已交三鼓,二人方散。士隐送雨村去后,回房一觉,直至红日三竿方醒。
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因思昨夜之事,意欲写荐书两封与雨村带至都中去,使雨村投谒个仕宦之家为寄身之地。
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因使人过去请时。
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和尚说,贾爷今日五鼓已进京去了。
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也曾留下话与和尚转达老爷,说:读书人不在黄道黑道,总以事理为要,不及面辞了。
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士隐听了,也只得罢了。
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真是闲处光阴易过,倏忽又是元宵佳节。
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士隐令家人霍启抱了英莲,去看社火花灯。
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半夜中霍启因要小解,便将英莲放在一家门槛上坐着。
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待他小解完了来抱时,那有英莲的踪影?
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急的霍启直寻了半夜。
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至天明不见,那霍启也不敢回来见主人,便逃往他乡去了。
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那士隐夫妇见女儿一夜不归,便知有些不好。
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再使几人去找寻,回来皆云影响全无。
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夫妻二人半世只生此女,一旦失去,何等烦恼。
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因此昼夜啼哭,几乎不顾性命。
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看看一月,士隐已先得病,夫人封氏也因思女构疾。
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日日请医问卦。

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#73loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02

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#72loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02

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天上一轮才捧出,人间万姓仰头看。
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士隐听了大叫:妙极!
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弟每谓兄必非久居人下者。
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今所吟之句,飞腾之兆已见。
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不日可接履于云霄之上了。
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可贺可贺!
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乃亲酌一斗为贺。
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雨村饮干,忽叹道。
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非晚生酒后狂言
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若论时尚之学,晚生也或可去充数挂名。
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只是如今行李路费一概无措,神京路远。
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非赖卖字撰文即能到得。
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兄何不早言!
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弟已久有此意,但每遇兄时并未谈及,故未敢唐突。
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今既如此,弟虽不才,义利二字却还识得。
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且喜明岁正当大比。
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兄宜作速入都,春闱一捷,方不负兄之所学。
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其盘费馀事弟自代为处置,亦不枉兄之谬识矣。
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当下即命小童进去速封五十两白银并两套冬衣。
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十九日乃黄道之期。

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#71goJhou回复于2019-02
#70 loejfgigjgldf回复
啥子意思?

http://ai.baidu.com/forum/topic/show/492325

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#70loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02
#69 goJhou回复
注意遵守版规

啥子意思?

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#69goJhou回复于2019-02

注意遵守版规

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#68loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02

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Not yet divined the fate in store for me. Good reason have I for anxiety.
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My brows are knit despondently. But she, as she went off, looked back at me.
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My shadow in the wind is all I see. Will she by moonlight keep me company?
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If sensibility were in its power. The moon should first light up the fair one's bower.
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Having recited this, Yucun rumpled his hair and sighed as he reflected how far he was from realizing his ambitions.
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The jade in the box hopes to fetch a good price. The pin in the casket longs to soar on high.
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He was overheard by Shiyin, who arrived just then.
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I see you have high ambitions, Brother Yucun! he joked.
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Not in the least, replied Yucun, somewhat embarrassed. I was merely reciting some lines by a former poet. I don't aspire so high. To what do I owe the pleasure of this visit?
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Tonight is mid-autumn, commonly known as the Festival of Reunion. It occurred to me that you might be feeling lonely in this temple, brother.
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I've prepared a little wine in my humble place and wonder if you'd condescend to share it?
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Yucun needed no urging.
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You lavish too much kindness on me, sir. Nothing would please me better.
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They went to the court in front of Shiyin's study.
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Soon they had finished their tea and sat down to a collation of choice wine and delicacies.
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At first they sipped slowly, but their spirits rose as they talked and they began to drink more recklessly.
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The sound of flutes and strings could be heard from all the houses in the neighbourhood; everywhere was singing; and overhead the bright moon shone in full splendour.
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The two men became very merry and drained cup after cup.
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Yucun, eight-tenths drunk, could not suppress his elation. He improvised a quatrain to the moon.
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On the fifteenth the moon is full. Bathing jade balustrades with her pure light.

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#67loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02

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#66loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-02

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未卜三生愿,频添一段愁。
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闷来时敛额,行去几回眸。
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自顾风前影,谁堪月下俦?
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蟾光如有意,先上玉人头。
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雨村吟罢,因又思及平生抱负,苦未逢时,乃又搔首对天长叹。
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玉在匵中求善价,钗于奁内待时飞。
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恰值士隐走来听见。
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笑道:雨村兄真抱负不凡也!
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雨村忙笑道:不敢,不过偶吟前人之句,何期过誉如此。老先生何兴至此?
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士隐笑道:今夜中秋,俗谓团圆之节,想尊兄旅寄僧房,不无寂寥之感。
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故特具小酌邀兄到敝斋一饮,不知可纳芹意否?
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雨村并不推辞。
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既蒙谬爱,何敢拂此盛情。
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说着便同士隐复过这边书院中来了。
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须臾茶毕,早已设下杯盘,那美酒佳肴自不必说。
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先是款酌慢饮,渐次谈至兴浓,不觉飞觥献斝起来。
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当时街坊上家家箫管,户户笙歌,当头一轮明月,飞彩凝辉。
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二人愈添豪兴,酒到杯干。
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雨村此时已有七八分酒意,狂兴不禁,乃对月寓怀。
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时逢三五便团圆,满把清光护玉栏。

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#65loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-01

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So after Shiyin went to the front room Yucun passed the time by leafing through some books, until he heard a young woman coughing outside.
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He slipped over to the window and looked out.
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It was a maid picking flowers.
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She had uncommon features, bright eyes and graceful eyebrows, and although no great beauty she possessed considerable charm.
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Yucun stared at her, spell-bound.
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Just as she was leaving with her flowers, the girl abruptly looked up and caught sight of him.
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His clothes were shabby yet he was powerfully built with an open face, firm lips, eyebrows like scimitars, eyes like stars, a straight nose and rounded cheeks.
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She turned away thinking to herself.
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He's a fine-looking man for all his tattered clothes.
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This must be the Jia Yucun my master keeps talking about, whom he'd gladly help if only he had the chance.
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She could not resist looking back a couple of times.
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Yucun seeing this was overjoyed, thinking that she must have taken a fancy to him.
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He decided that she had good judgement and was one of the few who could appreciate him in his obscurity.
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Presently the boy came back and let Yucun know that the guest was staying to a meal.
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Since this made it out of the question to wait any longer, Yucun went through a passage to the side gate and left.
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After the departure of Mr. Yan, Shiyin did not trouble to invite him back.
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In time the Mid-Autumn Festival came round.
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After the family meal, Shiyin had another table laid in his study and strolled over in the moonlight to the temple to invite Yucun over.
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Ever since the Zhens' maid had looked back that day, Yucun flattered himself that she was welldisposed to him and thought of her constantly.
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As he gazed at the full moon, his thoughts turned to her again.

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#63loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-01

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#62loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-01

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说着士隐已出前厅去了,这里雨村且翻弄诗籍解闷,忽听得窗外有女子嗽声。
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雨村遂起身往外一看。
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原来是一个丫鬟在那里掐花儿。
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生的仪容不俗,眉目清秀,虽无十分姿色,却也有动人之处。
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雨村不觉看得呆了。
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那甄家丫鬟掐了花儿方欲走时,猛抬头见窗内有人。
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敝巾旧服,虽是贫窘,然生得腰圆背厚,面阔口方,更兼剑眉星眼,直鼻方腮。
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这丫鬟忙转身回避,心下自想。
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这人生的这样雄壮,却又这样褴褛友。
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想他定是主人常说的什么贾雨村了,每每有意帮助周济他,只是没什么机会。
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如此一想,不免又回头一两次。
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雨村见他回头,便以为这女子心中有意于他。
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自谓此女子必是个巨眼英豪、风尘中之知己。
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一时小童进来,雨村打听得前面留饭。
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不可久待,遂从夹道中自便门出去了。
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士隐待客既散,知雨村已去,便也不去再邀。
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一日到了中秋佳节。
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士隐家宴已毕,又另具一席于书房,自己步月至庙中来邀雨村。
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原来雨村自那日见了甄家丫鬟曾回顾他两次,自谓是个知己,便时刻放在心上。
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今又正值中秋,不免对月有怀。

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#61loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-01
#59 荒墨丶迷失回复
人工翻译还是比机器翻译要准很多呢

肯定啊,机器翻译现在的BLEU值最高也就40多

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#60goJhou回复于2019-01
#59 荒墨丶迷失回复
人工翻译还是比机器翻译要准很多呢

fanyi.baidu.com

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#59荒墨丶迷失回复于2019-01
#47 loejfgigjgldf回复
现在还在人工翻译做语料的阶段,还没开始机器翻译

人工翻译还是比机器翻译要准很多呢

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#58loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-01

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The Taoist told the monk: This is where our paths divide. Each must go about his own business.
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Three aeons from now I shall wait for you at Mount Beimang, and together we can go to the Land of Illusion to have this affair expunged from the register.
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Very good, said the monk.
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Then both vanished without a trace.
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Shiyin realized then that these were no ordinary men and regretted not having questioned them.
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His rueful reflections were cut short by the arrival of a poor scholar who lived next door in Gourd Temple.
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A native of Huzhou, he was the last of a line of scholars and officials.
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His parents had exhausted the family property and died leaving him alone in the world.
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Since nothing was to be gained by staying at home, he had set out for the capital in the hope of securing a position and restoring the family fortunes.
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But by the time he had reached here a couple of years ago his money had run out and he had gone to live in the temple where he made a precarious living by working as a scrivener.
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For this reason Shiyin saw a good deal of him.
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Having greeted Shiyin, Yucun asked, What are you watching from your gate, sir? Is there any news in town?
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Nothing, was the reply.
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My little girl was crying, so I brought her out to play.
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You couldn't have arrived at a better moment, as I was feeling thoroughly bored. Come in and help me while away the long summer day.
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He told a servant to take his daughter inside, and led Yucun into his study, where a boy served tea.
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They had not exchanged many remarks when a servant hurried in to announce the arrival of a certain Mr.Yan.
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Then Shiyin excused himself, saying, Forgive my rudeness. Do you mind waiting here for a few minutes?
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Don't stand on ceremony, sir, said Yucun, rising.
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I am a regular guest here, I don't mind waiting.

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#57云1加1回复于2019-01

不错哦

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#56loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-01

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#55loejfgigjgldf回复于2019-01

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只听道人说道:你我不必同行,就此分手,各干营生去罢。
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三劫后我在北邙山等你,会齐了同往太虚幻境销号。
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那僧道:最妙,最妙!
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说毕,二人一去,再不见个踪影了。
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士隐心中此时自忖:这两个人必有来历,很该问他一问,如今后悔却已晚了。
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这士隐正在痴想,忽见隔壁葫芦庙内寄居的一个穷儒走来。
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这贾雨村原系湖州人氏,也是诗书仕宦之族。
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因他生于末世,父母祖宗根基已尽,人口衰丧,只剩得他一身一口。
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在家乡无益,因进京求取功名,再整基业。
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自前岁来此,又淹蹇住了,暂寄庙中安身,每日卖文作字为生。
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故士隐常与他交接。
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当下雨村见了士隐,忙施礼陪笑道:老先生倚门伫望,敢街市上有甚新闻么?
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士隐笑道:非也。
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适因小女啼哭,引他出来作耍。
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正是无聊的很,贾兄来得正好,请入小斋,彼此俱可消此永昼。
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说着便令人送女儿进去,自携了雨村来至书房中,小童献荼。
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方谈得三五句话,忽家人飞报:严老爷来拜。
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士隐慌忙起身谢道:恕诓驾之罪,且请略坐,弟即来奉陪。
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雨村起身也让道:老先生请便。
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晚生乃常造之客,稍候何妨。

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